Slide Protection when Running

[Gridiron Goblin]

Running left Ill slide protect right viseversa but when running up the middle is it better to go up or Down. Im sure it depends on the play but if someone could break this slide protect down a lil 4 me that be Great... Like dives, tosses, Power anything would Help. Good Lookin'

[cartman041388]

Originally Posted by Gridiron Goblin

Running left Ill slide protect right viseversa but when running up the middle is it better to go up or Down. Im sure it depends on the play but if someone could break this slide protect down a lil 4 me that be Great... Like dives, tosses, Power anything would Help. Good Lookin'

I slide protect up on runs up the middle. Draws I have always left as is, but I am open to any suggestions for them. For power Os, sweeps, tosses, counters and stretches, I slide protect in the opposite of the run. The only exception is when running a stretch where the DE or OLB is far outside of my TE. For that I slide with the run.

[Rasdrizzy420]

On powers,tosses an stretches i sp up.But i have sp the opposite direction an it worked to.

For some reason on outside runs when i sp to the play side the defenders beat me to the edge.Seems weird.

With dives when im runnin behind a fb i like to sp down.If its a sb set without a fb i sp right or left dependin on where the DTs are lined up.

[hollywood 662]

Everytime i run power o out of either I or strong tight pair the two dt get met for a loss or no gain. sometimes the dt follows the pulling guard and sometimes the play side guard gets whooped. which way do you guys slide for power o

[DragonSoul]

Ok not sure if i should be giving away my secret, which works fairly well, the only issue i have had against it, is vs a 2 dt, but have not gone on against it that often.

When i run a draw i block up. Because it pushes the lineman up to the 2nd layer.

When running straight up you can block up as well, or you can run block to a specific side, kinda mix bag their.

The secret is, whoever the guy is closest to the Center doesnt matter if its a 3-4 or 4-3 you block to his side, whether your running at him or away from him. Same for counters.

Also it helps if you practice it, because eventually you will have enough experience to see how the blocks are breaking, and react to them.

It also depends on your line and the team your going against. You can get beat at POT but usually wont happen much unless its an over load or a top delineman vs a sub par line.

I have a feeling for the 2 DT set you might just have to block straight up, 1 DT you can do the same as above, block to where he is vs your center.

So far its worked great for me, and just told a friend of mine who said it works great for him.

Really shouldnt be putting this out, but since it a community, I dont mine giving a little bit of help, since i know we all need it at times.

I labbed this a lot on my own in practice. It would be better if i had someone to lab with vs deline crashes.

If anyone tries this out, let me know what you think.

[cartman041388]

Originally Posted by DragonSoul

Ok not sure if i should be giving away my secret, which works fairly well, the only issue i have had against it, is vs a 2 dt, but have not gone on against it that often.

When i run a draw i block up. Because it pushes the lineman up to the 2nd layer.

When running straight up you can block up as well, or you can run block to a specific side, kinda mix bag their.

The secret is, whoever the guy is closest to the Center doesnt matter if its a 3-4 or 4-3 you block to his side, whether your running at him or away from him. Same for counters.

Also it helps if you practice it, because eventually you will have enough experience to see how the blocks are breaking, and react to them.

It also depends on your line and the team your going against. You can get beat at POT but usually wont happen much unless its an over load or a top delineman vs a sub par line.

I have a feeling for the 2 DT set you might just have to block straight up, 1 DT you can do the same as above, block to where he is vs your center.

So far its worked great for me, and just told a friend of mine who said it works great for him.

Really shouldnt be putting this out, but since it a community, I dont mine giving a little bit of help, since i know we all need it at times.

I labbed this a lot on my own in practice. It would be better if i had someone to lab with vs deline crashes.

If anyone tries this out, let me know what you think.

Is this just for inside runs and counters or for all runs including power Os, stretches, and tosses?

[classic]

hmm i will check this out never tried that before sounds like it may do some work

[DragonSoul]

Originally Posted by cartman041388

Is this just for inside runs and counters or for all runs including power Os, stretches, and tosses?

you can do it for them all. I have done it with inside runs, counters as well as tosses & stretches.

But w/tosses and some what stretches it is also some what based on how fast the defense is vs ur olines run blocking ability, sometimes you might have too speed past the blocks others you have to set them up, or even make 1 move to avoid the 1st guy then its open up 4 the rest of the way.

This works fairly well with man in the box and over loads, but depends on how much heat they are sending, ur lines pick up & if the heat is fast enough to get to you.

In regular situations you should have no issues, even with some added defenders, but there are xfactors as i mentioned above. Sometimes running it will be no issue other times you might have to be a good runner to make it happen.

[cartman041388]

Originally Posted by DragonSoul

you can do it for them all. I have done it with inside runs, counters as well as tosses & stretches.

But w/tosses and some what stretches it is also some what based on how fast the defense is vs ur olines run blocking ability, sometimes you might have too speed past the blocks others you have to set them up, or even make 1 move to avoid the 1st guy then its open up 4 the rest of the way.

This works fairly well with man in the box and over loads, but depends on how much heat they are sending, ur lines pick up & if the heat is fast enough to get to you.

In regular situations you should have no issues, even with some added defenders, but there are xfactors as i mentioned above. Sometimes running it will be no issue other times you might have to be a good runner to make it happen.

Good lookin' bro. I'm gonna try this next time I lab.

[DragonSoul]

Originally Posted by cartman041388

Good lookin' bro. I'm gonna try this next time I lab.

takes a little while to get use to, and seeing how it develops, but it works. Plus as mentioned above the more you practice, the easier it gets because you really do see and know how the blocks should develop.

Only real issue as mentioned previously is going against top not lineman, then it really is a toss up, but you have a better chance then not.

[Floatin]

Thanks for the info Dragonsoul

[DragonSoul]

seems you can use it as well against a 2dt set, or even 1 dt str8 on your center instead of straight up, just have to look to see where its better for ur blockers to focus on.

But for a straight up run or hb draw its still pretty solid to run shift up, yet you can play around with the shifts as well.

[entity361]

This post helped me get back on my game last night and I won 4 in a row with all games giving me over 100yds running and controlling the clock like never before, great tips!

[DragonSoul]

Originally Posted by entity361

This post helped me get back on my game last night and I won 4 in a row with all games giving me over 100yds running and controlling the clock like never before, great tips!

Took me a long time to figure it out, thought i had it a a couple times before, but i Ironed it out more so now.

Glad to know it helps, and work. You can run it against NT right on top of the center, you just have to slide protect to the side with more guys from what i noticed.

So if you have a lot of guys to the right, you slide them to the same side. Only when in going against a straight up NT or 2 dts. Started trying that out and seems to work fairly well.

[TNT713]

I slide my protection the same eway I'm running usually.. Running right, slide right. Left, slide left. It gives me a decent cutback lane when the defense attack the flanks.

On runs in the middle, it depends on the defensive alignment...

If the defense packs the middle, I slide protection down to attack the middle pressure. The center usually gets stood up, but the G and T on one side or the other usually pushes the pile enough to pick up 2-3 yards (which is all I really need on middle runs).

If the defense isn't stacking the LOS (Dollar, 3-4 without shifts, etc), I'll tell the line to fire out. This usually nets 6-7 yards.

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