Interesting convo between me and my father (caution: Involves Brett Favre)

[CP]

So my father calls me last night to laugh at Peyton Manning in my ear...So we talk for a little bit then he basically starts rambling about the media and how they cover things. Then:

Pops: 'The media loves to act like Brett Favre is an all time great'

Me: 'Uh, he is?'

Pops: According to what?'

Me: His resume, everything he's accomplished in the league?

Pops: No way, how many rockheaded interceptions has the man thrown? And he continually gets a pass

Me: No doubt that Favre is the last guy I'd want in a big game but he's still an all time great QB.

Pops: The guy is in the same boat as Peyton Manning. All stats, little to show for it in the SB column..

Me: Doesn't change the fact that the man had one of the greatest stretches in NFL history during his prime, or that he won 3 MVPs, or that he's amongst the tops in damn near every relevant QB category.

Pops: What about QB rating?

Me: QB rating, what's that?

Pops: you may not like it, but it's relevant to the discussion. Favre is one of the most overrated QBs ever. Hell give me Troy Aikman and Ben Roethlisberger over Favre

Me: QUE?!?! Troy Aikman? He isn't a pimple on Favre's arse. I can understand not liking the man, because God knows I like Bett Favre about as much as I like root canals but that is blind hatred. Aikman isn't on the same galaxy as Favre

Pops: Stop defending your boy.. <----LMAO

[Thong Sniffa]

I had mad respect for you pops.................until the Aikman line.


"Your boy". funny

[CP]

Lol, yeah that almost got a 'C'mon Son', but then I remembered that wouldn't be applicable.

[JoeJGibbs]

Originally Posted by CP

So my father calls me last night to laugh at Peyton Manning in my ear...So we talk for a little bit then he basically starts rambling about the media and how they cover things. Then:

Pops: 'The media loves to act like Brett Favre is an all time great'

Me: 'Uh, he is?'

Pops: According to what?'

Me: His resume, everything he's accomplished in the league?

Pops: No way, now quit ya bloodcot cryin ras clad!

Me: Sorry daddy.

Yea that was a good convo.

[killacs]

Originally Posted by CP

Me: C'Mon SON

Dad: What you just say?

CP: ummmm

*knock at CP's door*

Dad: You ain't too old to get your azz beat

now aren't you glad you didn't pull the c'mon son? Also I agree with your dad stop defending your boy.

[BK Arsonist]

Originally Posted by CP

So my father calls me last night to laugh at Peyton Manning in my ear...So we talk for a little bit then he basically starts rambling about the media and how they cover things. Then:

Pops: 'The media loves to act like Brett Favre is an all time great'

Me: 'Uh, he is?'

Pops: According to what?'

Me: His resume, everything he's accomplished in the league?

Pops: No way, how many rockheaded interceptions has the man thrown? And he continually gets a pass

Me: No doubt that Favre is the last guy I'd want in a big game but he's still an all time great QB.

Pops: The guy is in the same boat as Peyton Manning. All stats, little to show for it in the SB column..

Me: Doesn't change the fact that the man had one of the greatest stretches in NFL history during his prime, or that he won 3 MVPs, or that he's amongst the tops in damn near every relevant QB category.

Pops: What about QB rating?

Me: QB rating, what's that?

Pops: you may not like it, but it's relevant to the discussion. Favre is one of the most overrated QBs ever. Hell give me Troy Aikman and Ben Roethlisberger over Favre

Me: QUE?!?! Troy Aikman? He isn't a pimple on Favre's arse. I can understand not liking the man, because God knows I like Bett Favre about as much as I like root canals but that is blind hatred. Aikman isn't on the same galaxy as Favre

Pops: Stop defending your boy.. <----LMAO

Riddle me this and forget my love for the Cowboys, but Aikman gets blasted and he never lost a SB and he isn't pimple on Farce's arse? lol... CP, you make less and less sense....


so, Aikman had Irvin and Smith and he get's no love for winning 3 Supes, but Manning had Edge, Clark, Harrison, and Wayne, and you deep throat him on a reg?

Please explain

[CP]

Originally Posted by BK Arsonist

Riddle me this and forget my love for the Cowboys, but Aikman gets blasted and he never lost a SB and he isn't pimple on Farce's arse? lol... CP, you make less and less sense....


so, Aikman had Irvin and Smith and he get's no love for winning 3 Supes, but Manning had Edge, Clark, Harrison, and Wayne, and you deep throat him on a reg?

Please explain

Where did I blast Aikman?

Simply put, he is nowhere near Favre's caliber of QB.

Whether you want to go with numbers, the eye test, skill or whatever it is. Favre>>>>>>>>>>Aikman.

I don't care about who wins and who doesn't. Favre is a superior QB, and to me it isn't close.

Is that meant to say Aikman is terrible or anything of that sort? Nope. But he is no Favre.

And how can I forget your love for the Cowboys when that is exactly what inspired this post? lol

[BK Arsonist]

Originally Posted by CP

Where did I blast Aikman?

Simply put, he is nowhere near Favre's caliber of QB.

Whether you want to go with numbers, the eye test, skill or whatever it is. Favre>>>>>>>>>>Aikman.

I don't care about who wins and who doesn't. Favre is a superior QB, and to me it isn't close.

Is that meant to say Aikman is terrible or anything of that sort? Nope. But he is no Favre.

And how can I forget your love for the Cowboys when that is exactly what inspired this post? lol

explain how he's so much better than Troy... BTW, I absolutely can't stand Troy, but unlike you, I can always put my personal feelings aside. So, shoot!!!

[CP]

Originally Posted by JoeJGibbs

Yea that was a good convo.

Originally Posted by killacs

now aren't you glad you didn't pull the c'mon son? Also I agree with your dad stop defending your boy.

LMAO @ both of you...

[CP]

Originally Posted by BK Arsonist

explain how he's so much better than Troy... BTW, I absolutely can't stand Troy, but unlike you, I can always put my personal feelings aside. So, shoot!!!

If I can't put my personal feelings why in holy blue hell would I be defending Brett Favre? You know, the guy that I dislike more than damn near any other athlete?

Favre is more talented, Favre is more productive (to say the least), Favre is a 3 time MVP, Favre had one of the greatest 4 year stretches the game has ever seen, Favre is the only player to throw 30+ TDs 8 times (Aikman never did it).

But most of all, watching them play. Favre simply is better than Aikman by a wide margin.

How exactly is he NOT much better than Aikman? Becaue Aikman was on three title winning teams?

[phil28]

Originally Posted by BK Arsonist

explain how he's so much better than Troy... BTW, I absolutely can't stand Troy, but unlike you, I can always put my personal feelings aside. So, shoot!!!

Personally I would say Favre is better than Aikman. He did/still is doing more with less, no Hall of Fame line (though Steve Hutchison is a lock HoF guard), no Hall of Fame back (maybe Peterson if he sorts his fumbles out).

I'm not saying Aikman wasn't good, I mean I spent the whole of the 90s hating the bastard, but I think he was a product of being on a very good Dallas team for most of his career. In my opinion when you have a back like Smith who's probably gonna get 100 yards it makes it easier on the QB.

Just my opinion though, certainly up for debate.

[BK Arsonist]

Originally Posted by CP

If I can't put my personal feelings why in holy blue hell would I be defending Brett Favre? You know, the guy that I dislike more than damn near any other athlete?

Favre is more talented, Favre is more productive (to say the least), Favre is a 3 time MVP, Favre had one of the greatest 4 year stretches the game has ever seen, Favre is the only player to throw 30+ TDs 8 times (Aikman never did it).

But most of all, watching them play. Favre simply is better than Aikman by a wide margin.

How exactly is he NOT much better than Aikman? Becaue Aikman was on three title winning teams?

ok, so it's basically about the numbers that Favre put up throughout his career, right?

[BK Arsonist]

Originally Posted by phil28

Personally I would say Favre is better than Aikman. He did/still is doing more with less, no Hall of Fame line (though Steve Hutchison is a lock HoF guard), no Hall of Fame back (maybe Peterson if he sorts his fumbles out).

I'm not saying Aikman wasn't good, I mean I spent the whole of the 90s hating the bastard, but I think he was a product of being on a very good Dallas team for most of his career. In my opinion when you have a back like Smith who's probably gonna get 100 yards it makes it easier on the QB.

Just my opinion though, certainly up for debate.

OK, So, Aikman had Smith, so it took the heat off of him... Understood!!!! Favre didn't have that dominant back, so he had to throw more, right? Thus, putting up better numbers.

[CP]

Originally Posted by BK Arsonist

ok, so it's basically about the numbers that Favre put up throughout his career, right?

No, his skillset as well.

[BK Arsonist]

Originally Posted by CP

If I can't put my personal feelings why in holy blue hell would I be defending Brett Favre? You know, the guy that I dislike more than damn near any other athlete?

Favre is more talented, Favre is more productive (to say the least), Favre is a 3 time MVP, Favre had one of the greatest 4 year stretches the game has ever seen, Favre is the only player to throw 30+ TDs 8 times (Aikman never did it).

But most of all, watching them play. Favre simply is better than Aikman by a wide margin.

How exactly is he NOT much better than Aikman? Becaue Aikman was on three title winning teams?

Please explain